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  • Introduction

    Hello everyone,

    My name is George and I have just joined this forum. I've been lurking for a while now.
    I live in California USA and should receive my ATTACK kit by december 2002 or January 2003. I order mine over a year ago...

    Although I orded my kit long ago. I just now put up my '00 Porsche carrera 996 up for sale since I'm close to delivery. I feel that I will get more car for less money with the ATTACK. Although its really putting tears in my eyes to sell my baby(Porsche). I'm sure when I get my new delivery (ATTACK) it will more than make up for it.

    I have gone over several idea's from Audi TT turbo, Volkswagen 24v VR6 (possibly turbo). I decided on a simpler route by using a Honda/Acura drivetrain since it has been desinged for the accord platform. I will be going the way of Acura J32 series engine as found in the CL Type-S with 6-speed manual shift. I have inquired to several dealerships and found that Acura doesn't sell long-block (meaning assembled) engines. They give you a short block (includes pistons and crankshaft). The heads are to be bought seperatly and seem expensive as they are sold stripped and doesn't include anything but the cast metal. Also the transmission is expensive. But being use to Porsche parts pricing this should be a little easier on my wallet.
    I think I'll go with Comptech to assemble the engine. I am capable to doing it myself being formerly ASE certifed. But I need Comptech to bump up the rpm limit to widen the torque/hp band. A car this light will break traction easily with the stanard band below 6000 rpm. I am not going hog wild, I just want something around 6800-7200 rpms out of the engine. This should be okay due to bigger spacing between gears, and a lighter chassis. The lighter chassis would put less torsional force on the engine.

    Anyways I'll cut my long post short and say " I'm glad to be a part of this group of dedicated ATTACK enthusiest "

    Thanks!
    -G

  • #2
    Re: Introduction

    Originally posted by Box Car racer
    I will be going the way of Acura J32 series engine as found in the CL Type-S with 6-speed manual shift. I have inquired to several dealerships and found that Acura doesn't sell long-block (meaning assembled) engines. They give you a short block (includes pistons and crankshaft). The heads are to be bought seperatly and seem expensive as they are sold stripped and doesn't include anything but the cast metal. Also the transmission is expensive. But being use to Porsche parts pricing this should be a little easier on my wallet.
    I think I'll go with Comptech to assemble the engine. I am capable to doing it myself being formerly ASE certifed. But I need Comptech to bump up the rpm limit to widen the torque/hp band. A car this light will break traction easily with the stanard band below 6000 rpm. I am not going hog wild, I just want something around 6800-7200 rpms out of the engine. This should be okay due to bigger spacing between gears, and a lighter chassis. The lighter chassis would put less torsional force on the engine.
    Good stuff . . . . You might have already read it - but check out this discussion regarding the J-series V6.

    From what I've heard, Comptech does top-quality work. They're not cheap, but I've never heard a bad word about them.

    As far as moving the powerband - would you be getting custom ground cams for that? I'm not aware of any that are available for the J-series. Have you considered using the 3.5 block? Although with a longer stroke, you'd probably be moving the powerband down, which isn't exactly your intention. And how were you planning on dealing with the electronics? Even removing/moving the rev limiter could be tricky, I don't think anyone's hacked those ECU's yet.

    And if you're looking for better pricing than the stealership will offer, check out Majestic Honda online, and Acura Carland online. Prices are typically about 20% cheaper at those sites than what a parts counter will quote you.

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    • #3
      reaemione

      Thanks for the reply,

      The 3.5 is a great idea, But I don't think the attack in base trim would need as much torque than the 3.5L will provide. I'm trying to stick to a square block as much as possible(bore x stroke). This helps an engine rev better. I think also some head work may be in order to cope with the new displacement. The head combustion area will need to be opened up to match the bore than cc for the added volume. Also maybe ported and polish and the valves bottle necked or slightly bigger than stock for the added displacement. I think its a great idea for those who will add luxury items in their ATTACK. Such as a/c, power, full carpeting, navigation, stereo and the likes. This will easily add a few hundred pounds which would entitle a little extra torque. I am going the lighter is faster route. Which is fine for me but others my require the added luxury. I don't blame them, the car will be fast no doubt and other may not be spirited drivers. But I am coming from a Porsche that did 0-60mph in 4.9 seconds. If I don't acheive this in my mind I would be downgrading. The car will feel slow to me. My intentions are to have a lighter faster car which is better looking.

      Yes, you are right, I do need some cam work. I'm hoping comptech has the formulas and equipment to regrind the stock cams to my specifications. If not it will be very expensive to have custom cams made. Also before I shoe horn the v6 in there I need to have acurate measurments made. The engine compartment has cross bracing to either side behind the roll bars. This may pose a problem with the top corner surface of the valve cover and head. I'll have plenty of work ahead of me when my kit gets here to keep me up at night. When I get the time I will measure the distance and height forward of the sige engine mounts to see if it will clear. I will make a bar to extend the exact distance away from the mount area and suspend it from the motor mount bolt hole using a single bolt. Then cut it to proper length to were is just clears the cross beam. At which point I even the surface between the cross beam and the bar and measure the angle at which it sits. Then off to my buddies wrecking yard for Honda/Acura which is 2 hours away. Then go to a wrecked CL and bolt my measuring tool to the mount bolt on the CL's chassis with no engine and measure that angle and account for the different surface slop that car maybe sitting at . If not I'll take the angle to a point in the engine bay. If it doesn't clear on the ATTACK then the engine mounts will need to be lowered and the crossmember slotted and reinforced for the different 3rd engine mount position.

      It's nerve racking for me to speculate as to what mod's I will do. Without the car here I have only a rough guess as to what fits and what doesn't. I'm sure everyone in the group has the same frustraions. But I think this is really a great forum for us to to swap ideas and help each other out as we plan for our ATTACKS arrival.

      Thanks for telling me about the 3.5L. If the final version of the ATTACK comes out and K-1 gives us specs as to the exact weight of the production version I can do some power to weight formulas. If it turns out good who nows maybe I to will add all the creature comforts and go the 3.5L route.

      Thanks again Daemione,

      Best regards
      -G

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      • #4
        Re: reaemione

        Originally posted by Box Car racer

        Yes, you are right, I do need some cam work. I'm hoping comptech has the formulas and equipment to regrind the stock cams to my specifications. If not it will be very expensive to have custom cams made.
        The last time I was at their shop I didn't see cam regrinding equipment. As far as I know, they don't have a large cam application list. The cams that they do sell are billet. But if you're really interested, I'm sure for the right price they make things happen or as least lead you in the right direction. If you ever get a chance, visit there shop. It's a top notch setup. I was in IRL heaven.

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        • #5
          cams

          Thanks Boon,

          Comptech is some 2hours away. I have a couple of friends in the Sacramento area, so I might just drive up there to discuss the cams with them and visit my friends :-)
          -G

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          • #6
            Used Engines

            You can purchase JDM engines from several dealers over the internet. I see that you went to Honda to possibly purchase a brand new engine but i have been there once before and allthough it is always good to know what your buying they charge you an arm and a leg. i have heard good things about www.jdmhondaparts.com and www.jdm1.com. You can find a low mileage H22A DOHC VTEC engine for around $2500 from these sites and they come with tranny, ecu, wiring harness, and in some cases even axles. I am not 100% sure what these companies have to offer but they usualy have a waranty. If I had a ton of money to spend i would just buy a used engine for cheap and with the extra money rebuild the engine, new hoses, gaskets, etc. Spend the extra money on a supercharger or turbo kit. Both of those forced induction methods have proved to supply generous power to the H22a.

            I think they sell the H22a jdm type-s engine (which has 220hp as apposed to 190hp found in standard h22a)on www.jdmhondaparts.com as well, but im not sure....check it out.
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