What About The New NSX-R Motor

Limit Four-Five · 06-20-2003, 12:26 AM

Would the motor from the new NSX-R fit in the Attack. If it did an exhaust, a stroker kit, a programable ECU and a higher flowing panel filter (Exposed Pod Filters are illegal on cars in australia) and id be set apart from a few minor body mods to make my Attack more individual.

ozarkbw · 06-20-2003, 08:25 AM

Hope you have a good income.

Why not just buy the NSX?

Daemione · 06-20-2003, 08:57 AM

Think of it this way - how many NSX engines do you see swapped into Accords? If you've got the theoretical budget, ability, and means to install the C32 (NSX engine) in a FWD Accord, then yes, you should be able to do it on the Attack.

But frankly, there are vastly more cost effective methods to get to that level of performance. So unless you happen to have a spare NSX donor lying around, a shop of your own, and years of chassis development & custom fabrication experience under your belt, I don't see it ever happening.

And just curious, how much more unique do you need an Attack to be? I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that if you ordered one, you'd probably have the only one on your continent . . . .

LT-5Fiero · 06-20-2003, 01:41 PM

Ahh it's just a mere $7,500 for a remanufactured one at Pep Boys

N2OInferno · 06-22-2003, 04:24 PM

IMO NSX engines aren't really impressive. If you want to spend that much, just build up a 500 horsepower H22A.

Limit Four-Five · 06-25-2003, 10:35 PM

I want the NSX-R motor because it was built as a MR motor. The other thing is that i dont want any turbos on it as theres always the matter of getting a intercooler in it which isnt that hard i know but doing it NA with no forced induction is my prefered route for that sort of car. And the thing that i sait about some mods is that i would want to get the car to the stage that i feel that it is perfect. Said mods include different headlights and tail lights from a RX-7 and different rear bar.

N2OInferno · 06-25-2003, 11:49 PM

Well.. it'll be your car, so.. whatever. If you want to drop about ten to twelve grand for a NSX engine then so be it. You then have to find a transmission from an NSX and make it the whole assembly fit into the Attack. Or you could get a B-series engine, figure out how to put that in there, and run that NA all the way up to 9000 RPMS, with more power than the NSX engine, and have a bit more money left than you would have with the NSX engine. Or just build up an H22A engine to run NA. It's up to you. I can say with pretty good assurance that it'll be 100x easier to turbo an H22A in the Attack, with intercooler and all, than to drop that NSX engine in there. Like Daemione said, I've NEVER seen an NSX engine in an Accord. If you want an engine that's "designed as a mid-engine", well, engine.. You might as well get the engine out of the Porsche 911 Turbo. Of course, the new Toyota MR-Spyder uses the 1ZZGE engine, which is originally in the Celica GT, a front engine, front wheel drive car. Yet the MRS still retains awesome front/rear weight ratio.

Why the RX7 tail lights and front light conversion? I think the Diablo lights and the projectors up front are great. I would see about getting myself an acrylic cover for the headlights though.. Anyways, if you can't do the bodywork yourself it's going to be a considerable amount of money.. Nobody has ever worked on one of these cars. Most people haven't even seen them and don't know it exists, and you're going to have to make sure the fiberglass looks good on the outside AND the inside of the front, as it's one piece that folds up.. I don't think you'd want anyone to look in and see a slopped together fiberglass mess. I'm guessing it's going to cost somewhere in at least the thousands of dollars range, not counting parts, for light conversions. It's also going to add weight if you modify the frame or the body, which is starting to kill the purpose of the Attack to begin with..

One of the guys that used to frequent other boards I was on took his Accord and put t-tops on it, Integra lights, Celica side edges, and more.. His car had over 50,000 dollars in mods. He was sponsored too, so he got some really nice discounts on all that work. It's been in shows all over and stuff and he's selling it now. Just letting you know, it's EXPENSIVE. But if you have the money, more power to you.. I'd be interested to see if you have a photoshop or sketched rendering of what it's going to look like before you do it though, just to make sure that you are SURE you like it. I personally think the RX7 is WAY too curvy of a car for any parts of it to flow with an Attack.

ozarkbw · 06-26-2003, 08:10 AM

I don't understand why you would even go about something like this. This isn't a production car. It's a custom frame with fiberglass skin designed for a specific drivetrain. If you don't like the way it looks or what engine is designed to go in it, then create your own frame and fiberglass body. It would be alot more unique and impressive. It would probably be cheaper too.

MoltenLava · 06-29-2003, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by N2OInferno Like Daemione said, I've NEVER seen an NSX engine in an Accord.

How about in a CRX?

http://www.mahdavimotorsports.com/im...nsx/index.html

Quote:

If you want an engine that's "designed as a mid-engine", You might as well get the engine out of the Porsche 911 Turbo.

Well, technically speaking, thats a 'rear engine' design, not 'mid-engine'. To get a engine designed for mid engine placement, just grab one out of a ferrari... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615
ok, so it wouldn't fit but god it would sound good....

N2OInferno · 06-29-2003, 06:51 PM

Oops.. Rear engine. My bad.

How about the BMW engine from the McLaren F1?

MoltenLava · 06-29-2003, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by N2OInferno
How about the BMW engine from the McLaren F1?

(MoltenLava Drools on keyboard instead of typing)

attackkid · 03-28-2004, 09:33 PM

no way in hell even i could afford somehting like that. a freakin 600hp v-12 bmw mclaren engine. that hting in the attack would cause long term death, and maybe instant death. the attack would twist and bend all over the place with such an engine. you have got to be stupid even thinking about trying to make it fit in the dam attack. well that was a pretty stupid joke for putting thining about something like that.

automechanicx · 03-28-2004, 10:34 PM

Hmmm long term death. Yeah that really sucks. Its much worse the short term death.

attackkid · 03-29-2004, 12:03 AM

i totally agree lol, i meant debt

321AtTaCk · 03-29-2004, 04:48 AM

You. Cant afford that? wow that like the first thing ive heard that you couldnt afford.

06-20-2003, 12:26 AM	#1
Limit Four-Five Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Moree Posts: 4	What About The New NSX-R Motor Would the motor from the new NSX-R fit in the Attack. If it did an exhaust, a stroker kit, a programable ECU and a higher flowing panel filter (Exposed Pod Filters are illegal on cars in australia) and id be set apart from a few minor body mods to make my Attack more individual. __________________ Give Me A 3SGTE In My Car And I'll Be Happy

06-20-2003, 01:41 PM	#4
LT-5Fiero Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Deep South Posts: 886	Ahh it's just a mere $7,500 for a remanufactured one at Pep Boys __________________ So what's going in my Attack? "Project Blitzkrieg" Top Secret nowadays In the meantime: 2003 Mazda 6S, debadged, demolded, Hurst T-handle shifter, MSD Stacker-8 Ignition, 160F t-stat, throttle body grounded and coolant bypassed, blackened headlights, Boston Acoustic ProSeries 6.5 component speakers. 1987 Pontiac Fiero GT, 77,000 original miles, hole in the V6 block to be remedied with a built 350 V8 and GM 462 double-hump heads.

06-25-2003, 10:35 PM	#6
Limit Four-Five Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Moree Posts: 4	I want the NSX-R motor because it was built as a MR motor. The other thing is that i dont want any turbos on it as theres always the matter of getting a intercooler in it which isnt that hard i know but doing it NA with no forced induction is my prefered route for that sort of car. And the thing that i sait about some mods is that i would want to get the car to the stage that i feel that it is perfect. Said mods include different headlights and tail lights from a RX-7 and different rear bar. __________________ Give Me A 3SGTE In My Car And I'll Be Happy

03-28-2004, 09:33 PM	#12
attackkid Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 74	no way in hell even i could afford somehting like that. a freakin 600hp v-12 bmw mclaren engine. that hting in the attack would cause long term death, and maybe instant death. the attack would twist and bend all over the place with such an engine. you have got to be stupid even thinking about trying to make it fit in the dam attack. well that was a pretty stupid joke for putting thining about something like that. __________________ he who laughs the last thinks the slowest

03-28-2004, 10:34 PM	#13
automechanicx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bethlehem PA Posts: 43	Hmmm long term death. Yeah that really sucks. Its much worse the short term death. __________________ Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way your a mile away, and you have their shoes.

06-20-2003, 08:25 AM	#2
ozarkbw Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 383	Hope you have a good income. Why not just buy the NSX?

06-20-2003, 08:57 AM	#3
Daemione Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Norwalk, CT Posts: 1,035	Think of it this way - how many NSX engines do you see swapped into Accords? If you've got the theoretical budget, ability, and means to install the C32 (NSX engine) in a FWD Accord, then yes, you should be able to do it on the Attack. But frankly, there are vastly more cost effective methods to get to that level of performance. So unless you happen to have a spare NSX donor lying around, a shop of your own, and years of chassis development & custom fabrication experience under your belt, I don't see it ever happening. And just curious, how much more unique do you need an Attack to be? I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that if you ordered one, you'd probably have the only one on your continent . . . .

06-22-2003, 04:24 PM	#5
N2OInferno Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 326	IMO NSX engines aren't really impressive. If you want to spend that much, just build up a 500 horsepower H22A.

06-25-2003, 11:49 PM	#7
N2OInferno Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 326	Well.. it'll be your car, so.. whatever. If you want to drop about ten to twelve grand for a NSX engine then so be it. You then have to find a transmission from an NSX and make it the whole assembly fit into the Attack. Or you could get a B-series engine, figure out how to put that in there, and run that NA all the way up to 9000 RPMS, with more power than the NSX engine, and have a bit more money left than you would have with the NSX engine. Or just build up an H22A engine to run NA. It's up to you. I can say with pretty good assurance that it'll be 100x easier to turbo an H22A in the Attack, with intercooler and all, than to drop that NSX engine in there. Like Daemione said, I've NEVER seen an NSX engine in an Accord. If you want an engine that's "designed as a mid-engine", well, engine.. You might as well get the engine out of the Porsche 911 Turbo. Of course, the new Toyota MR-Spyder uses the 1ZZGE engine, which is originally in the Celica GT, a front engine, front wheel drive car. Yet the MRS still retains awesome front/rear weight ratio. Why the RX7 tail lights and front light conversion? I think the Diablo lights and the projectors up front are great. I would see about getting myself an acrylic cover for the headlights though.. Anyways, if you can't do the bodywork yourself it's going to be a considerable amount of money.. Nobody has ever worked on one of these cars. Most people haven't even seen them and don't know it exists, and you're going to have to make sure the fiberglass looks good on the outside AND the inside of the front, as it's one piece that folds up.. I don't think you'd want anyone to look in and see a slopped together fiberglass mess. I'm guessing it's going to cost somewhere in at least the thousands of dollars range, not counting parts, for light conversions. It's also going to add weight if you modify the frame or the body, which is starting to kill the purpose of the Attack to begin with.. One of the guys that used to frequent other boards I was on took his Accord and put t-tops on it, Integra lights, Celica side edges, and more.. His car had over 50,000 dollars in mods. He was sponsored too, so he got some really nice discounts on all that work. It's been in shows all over and stuff and he's selling it now. Just letting you know, it's EXPENSIVE. But if you have the money, more power to you.. I'd be interested to see if you have a photoshop or sketched rendering of what it's going to look like before you do it though, just to make sure that you are SURE you like it. I personally think the RX7 is WAY too curvy of a car for any parts of it to flow with an Attack.

06-26-2003, 08:10 AM	#8
ozarkbw Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 383	I don't understand why you would even go about something like this. This isn't a production car. It's a custom frame with fiberglass skin designed for a specific drivetrain. If you don't like the way it looks or what engine is designed to go in it, then create your own frame and fiberglass body. It would be alot more unique and impressive. It would probably be cheaper too.

06-29-2003, 06:51 PM	#10
N2OInferno Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 326	Oops.. Rear engine. My bad. How about the BMW engine from the McLaren F1?

03-29-2004, 12:03 AM	#14
attackkid Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 74	i totally agree lol, i meant debt __________________ he who laughs the last thinks the slowest

03-29-2004, 04:48 AM	#15
321AtTaCk Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 19	You. Cant afford that? wow that like the first thing ive heard that you couldnt afford.

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